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[Slash]

Every other slot, so 1,3,5,7

Looks like only sets of 4 are an "officially supported" configuration. Should still work though.

Right now, you have both DIMMs on channel 1.

Channel 1 - slots 1,2
Channel 2 - slots 3,4
Channel 3 - slots 5,6
Channel 4 - slots 7,8

[Brother Esau]

Thank you for the timely reply! I assume that splitting them up among channel 1 -2 = dual channel

[LostBenji]

Has anyone considered offloading the GPU requirements to a daughter board and leave the CPU/chip-sets and limited PCI-E space for the add-on ?

Example:
This: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/moth...x0/H8QG6-F.cfm

Then add this to the picture: http://www.cyclone.com/products/expa...anes/index.php

Now place this cat into the pigeons: http://www.lucidlogix.com/unity_architecture.html

This monster would not fit into desktop cases and so it shouldn't either because we are not desktop bunnies, we are monsters. I have spoken in the past with Cyclone who confirmed that the backplanes allow for full SLi & CF and it already have proven that even the biggest single GPU cards don't need 16 PCI-E lanes each. Even dual GPU weapons like the 5970 only loose a few FPS going from 16x to 8x, more than survivable.

[Gold Leader]

Well the good news is, is that the Supermicro H8DAG6-F has Native CFX support, since these mobo's are used for AMD Stream setups , where 3 FireGL cards are used in Tri CFX mode, so that is at least one upside to live with, I plan on giving my systenm a pair of HD 6990's and take full advantage of the native CFX, I am like why not make it an OpenCL mionster instead with 6144 ALU's at it's disposal Iam quite sure it will come to great use this way

As for that Quad board, the chance is very high that it also has native CFX support I will do more research on this with other type of Radeon VGA cards once the system is up and running hopefully this years end, if my fundings serve me well.

[Krobar]

Originally Posted by Gold Leader

Well the good news is, is that the Supermicro H8DAG6-F has Native CFX support, since these mobo's are used for AMD Stream setups , where 3 FireGL cards are used in Tri CFX mode, so that is at least one upside to live with, I plan on giving my systenm a pair of HD 6990's and take full advantage of the native CFX, I am like why not make it an OpenCL mionster instead with 6144 ALU's at it's disposal Iam quite sure it will come to great use this way

As for that Quad board, the chance is very high that it also has native CFX support I will do more research on this with other type of Radeon VGA cards once the system is up and running hopefully this years end, if my fundings serve me well.

GL,

Any chance you could stretch to 3 6990s? I'm interested to know how game CFX deals with seperated IOHs; for crunching I supsect it will be no problem at all.

Edit: Or if you could post some benchmarks with both cards on one IOH and each card on a seperate IOH that would be great.

[Gold Leader]

Well I am waiting on the Opteron Interlagos 16 core 6200 series CPU's first, these have not hit the market yet,. so by the time I will buy a VGA card the HD 7990 might even be on the market, for now it's EVGA GTX 480 will have to do for it's VGA, it's a good card and it is driver mature as well.

This project costs me more money and time than I expected, but no need to worry, I will proceed with it once these new 16 core monsters hit the market, then there is more room to complete it, hopefully it will be running before X-Mas 2011.

[Krobar]

Originally Posted by Gold Leader

Well I am waiting on the Opteron Interlagos 16 core 6200 series CPU's first, these have not hit the market yet,. so by the time I will buy a VGA card the HD 7990 might even be on the market, for now it's EVGA GTX 480 will have to do for it's VGA, it's a good card and it is driver mature as well.

This project costs me more money and time than I expected, but no need to worry, I will proceed with it once these new 16 core monsters hit the market, then there is more room to complete it, hopefully it will be running before X-Mas 2011.

I may well have an LGA2011 system by then, might make an interesting comparison.

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by Krobar

I may well have an LGA2011 system by then, might make an interesting comparison.

Yeah that would be interesting to compare, for the situation Iam in I need a full year to build such a system is because Iam 100% disabled, I have to earn extra by selling parts of collections or old computer parts, but overall it's not going fast at all, even though when completed it will be a fine upgrade to what this system used to be in the first place which was a mild performing Core i7 930 D0 and 3x 2GB PC3-12800 with an EVGA E758 V2 a mobo, that gave me numerous issues due to it's onboard Realtek 8. HD Audio choip and Northbridge cooling. that had rubber pads under the NB HSF... This sytsem was pure drama 6 weeks long.

EVGA did not even know the sillution so iwas stuck until I found out that the Noerthbridge was over heating because of the rubber pads it had, after removing these the NB temps dropped 12C, no joke

Also I had to disabled the onboard soundchip to fix it's reandom booting issue, hereby adding an Auzentech X-Fi prelude 7.1 PCI Soundcard, hereby losing the 3-way CFX and SLI options...

So yeah that system cost me a lot of worries and stress, EVGA and 1 CPU/ never again that's one thing for sure.

So from that point, I was like 2CPU & Supermicro only and nothing else ever again, I want top quality hardware only, the server class mobo's of Supermicro are deffintely the way to go, but damn I miss iWiLL alot as many others do too I guess.

But yeah I guess you will go for the 20Core Opteron CPU's right? Chipset is the G36 afaik with LGA 2011.

[Krobar]

Originally Posted by Gold Leader

Yeah that would be interesting to compare, for the situation Iam in I need a full year to build such a system is because Iam 100% disabled, I have to earn extra by selling parts of collections or old computer parts, but overall it's not going fast at all, even though when completed it will be a fine upgrade to what this system used to be in the first place which was a mild performing Core i7 930 D0 and 3x 2GB PC3-12800 with an EVGA E758 V2 a mobo, that gave me numerous issues due to it's onboard Realtek 8. HD Audio choip and Northbridge cooling. that had rubber pads under the NB HSF... This sytsem was pure drama 6 weeks long.

EVGA did not even know the sillution so iwas stuck until I found out that the Noerthbridge was over heating because of the rubber pads it had, after removing these the NB temps dropped 12C, no joke

Also I had to disabled the onboard soundchip to fix it's reandom booting issue, hereby adding an Auzentech X-Fi prelude 7.1 PCI Soundcard, hereby losing the 3-way CFX and SLI options...

So yeah that system cost me a lot of worries and stress, EVGA and 1 CPU/ never again that's one thing for sure.

So from that point, I was like 2CPU & Supermicro only and nothing else ever again, I want top quality hardware only, the server class mobo's of Supermicro are deffintely the way to go, but damn I miss iWiLL alot as many others do too I guess.

But yeah I guess you will go for the 20Core Opteron CPU's right? Chipset is the G36 afaik with LGA 2011.

I have seen weird issues with some rigs as well and will likely stick to Tyan for the next build (Currently using the last Iwill to be made; DPK66S). My main issue is I dont really have need for more than 6 cores, my current use only occasionally peaks at 8 core usage and more clock speed would be better overall. I have the late Q1 roadmaps from a couple of manufacturers from my previous job and there is a particular Tyan on the horizon that has an ideal slot and mem mix for my usage but slot wiring to the primary CPU will be of concern if I decide to go single cpu.

I am still tempted by a dual C32 bulldozer setup but I think the Intel product cycle will line up better with when I want a new system.

[Gold Leader]

Tyan only does not have the quality service that Supermicro does have, especially here in the EU, although the hardware quality of Tyan can be good, but if you have issues forget about their service, heard many issues from that,sadly, because they do have some wonderful hardware designs, that's one thing for sure.

[guruofhotrod]

Originally Posted by aryan

it just pwnz... on another note; for other SLI options please do take a look at this



Lucid Logics implemented as a VGA card next to 'green and red' cards; even IGPs; the next big thing ever since Ageia PhysX.

http://www.lucidlogix.com/unity_architecture.html

Geez, it's only been a little over a year and the link is dead, the lucid site doesn't even show the HydraLogix (I think that's what they called it) as available
Did anyone try this technology?

Hmmm Here's the only stuff left related to HydraLogix: http://www.lucidlogix.com/wheretobuy-hydra.html

[Gold Leader]

Hyper SLI which once went under the name of SLI patch, an application 2cpu.com member Aryan worked on the past two years is finally made it's debut, it has proved that it can give you native SLI Support on any 2CP & 4CPU motherboard that normally does not have this support!

The ultimate dream come true right! xD

Aryan from 2CPU.com has the solution for us:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=153046

Here his test setup Dual Opty 6128, 3x GTX 260 in 3-Way Hyper SLI
http://www.flickr.com/photos/twobomb...in/photostream

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

@Gold Leader,
That is great news that Aryan has been able to make 3-way SLI work across 2 chipsets that don't natively support it! This might be a worthy topic for it's own thread.

Thanks for the update!

I'm still running a pair of 6134's (MagnyCours) and waiting to hear how the newer gen (PileDriver) performs in a workstation scenario.

Yeah no worries mate! He an I chat a lot in MSN and he always keeps me up to date with his updates in my "2CPU Computers & VGA Cards" group @ Facebook

If you want to become a part of it, pm me and I'll give you all the info you need

Aryan and I wanna keep the Dual Opteron SLI support dream alive and I plan to beta test for him too, once I get my Dual Opty 6174 up and running, it will take sometime, but this time I have lots of patience and it will be completed my friend

But hey that's nice man, Dual Opty 6134's are 2.3Ghz 8 cores! Very nice setup you have there man! Aryan has my old Supermicro H8DG6-F, which I found out in the long run, I should of kept, but on the other side it was a positive move also

Thanks to this sale of mine, I was able to get Aryan this mobo and he successfully could test his Hyper SLI Software with it, so now I am all over the Dual G34 idea and I am selling my i7 gear, as which I already sold my EVGA X79 FTW Mobo, only have the CPU, Ram & CPU Cooler to go and after this I also will buy a Supermicro H8DG6-F, two Opteron 6174's to start off with and 8x 4GB PC3-12800 ECC Reg from HP/Micron or Kingston Either brand is okay for me xD

All I need is the H8DG6-F, the two 6174's the ram and the Noctual 92mil air coolers and I am all set good to go
The name of the system is Valkyrie SMP 2013

Hereby I hope to get it all completed before April 2013 and I really want to complete it, I know I can do this so there is no more giving up either.

As for the Opteron 6300 series I plan to aim for a pair of 6374's but they are a later worry, hereby I plan to skip the 6200 series :

After it's built I will support his Hyper SLI with Quad SLI & 2-Way SLI as I still have them EVGA GeForce GTX 295 Red Editions and them EVGA GTX 680 SC SE 2GB's

This way I can fully support his beta runs and make it a better place for every Dual G34 user, if this works on the H8DG6-F it should work fine on the ASUS & Tyan relatives also

Anyways I plan to take one thing at a time, but I plan to make anew thread on this, sorry for going off topic here heh, it's such an exciting project hehe

Anyways this topic I made to give Aryan's work more publicity, the more Dual Opteron & Dual Xeon users test this the greater the support list of motherboards will get

Same for Quad & Octo CPU users. Please test this on your setups as well, that is, if you are willing to participate!

[aryan]

Next on the test sheet is quad SLI: 2x2, with a total of 3 sli bridges to cross, of which two are real :P

[Booga]

Well then. I suppose this would work on single-socket 970-series boards as well? And I just bought a single, lonely, 560ti too, and my other PCIe slot is so very empty... there goes my money :P

[Gold Leader]

@ Booga

Well all what you can do is try it, I am not familiar with that motherboard type, but in theory it should work yes.

Here the spec page of this motherboard:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3907#sp

As I read them specs it only supports CFX, so yeah in theory Hyper SLI should fix this to give you SLI support too

[guruofhotrod]

This was what I wanted to try on a G34 rig - well..... lets see, I've got a new Nvidia edition HAF-X, a PCP&C Turbo Cool 1200, 32GB (4GB x 8) Gskill DDR3 1600, I think I've still got a fresh W/D 500 Black and a few other misc components - Will need a motherboard (pricy) a couple processors (maybe a couple of 6140's or 6220's 8 cores per should be plenty for most workstation/daily driver/gaming use, a set of 3 matching video cards (Nvidia 600 series would be nice), and perhaps some fancy coolers (liquid?) - ok it's on! I'm gonna collect more parts ASAP maybe I'll get it going by the beginning of the new year!

[guruofhotrod]

Guess we should revive this thread since Gold Leader is planning on picking up where he left off and I'm about to start collecting parts for a similar build.

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

This was what I wanted to try on a G34 rig - well..... lets see, I've got a new Nvidia edition HAF-X, a PCP&C Turbo Cool 1200, 32GB (4GB x 8) Gskill DDR3 1600, I think I've still got a fresh W/D 500 Black and a few other misc components - Will need a motherboard (pricy) a couple processors (maybe a couple of 6140's or 6220's 8 cores per should be plenty for most workstation/daily driver/gaming use, a set of 3 matching video cards (Nvidia 600 series would be nice), and perhaps some fancy coolers (liquid?) - ok it's on! I'm gonna collect more parts ASAP maybe I'll get it going by the beginning of the new year!

Well if you plan to use 3VGA cards, do keep in mind you have no slots for a good sound card, but you can always go for a good USB Soundcard to fill in this gap

The Supermicro H8DG6-Fis my mobo of choice, but since I do alot with HD Video making, compiling & Editiong I am goignt o go for a pair of Opteron 6174's 6176's or 6180 SE's if I can grab them cheap from somehwere or someone, 24 cores @ 2.2Ghz to 2.5Ghz would be nice, for games I have my EVGA GTX 680 SC SE 2GB's and for sound an Auztech X-Fi Forte 7.1 PCI-E x1 64MB

So games, Simulations and Workstation wise I can go all directions, as Opty 6200 series go, I'll skip these and upgrade to Dual 16 Core 6300 series when the time comes around
We can then post our Hyper SLI setups in this thread, this way we can prove others that this really works.

The ASUS Dual G34 motherbaord is also a ncie choice,even that it only has one AM5690 Northbridge, as the Supermicro has two of them, I dunno if this will be of any performance difference though, as Hyper SLI would go?

ASUS KGPE D16:


Supermicro H8DG6-F:

[guruofhotrod]

[quote=Gold Leader;798327]Well if you plan to use 3VGA cards, do keep in mind you have no slots for a good sound card, but you can always go for a good USB Soundcard to fill in this gap

I'm thinking that since the Nvidia GTX cards since the 400 series has HDMI and includes onboard HD audio perhaps I could just pull sound from that

I am contemplating buying one of those SM H8DG6-F boards for this build.

Edit: Waaaaaaa!!! I just missed out on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...6820167122#top on shellshocker special for $99.00
That would have made a nice addition to the plan!

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

I'm thinking that since the Nvidia GTX cards since the 400 series has HDMI and includes onboard HD audio perhaps I could just pull sound from that

I am contemplating buying one of those SM H8DG6-F boards for this build.

Edit: Waaaaaaa!!! I just missed out on this:http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellS...m-_-singleitem
That would have made a nice addition to the plan!

hehe your thoughts are mine mate! \o/ \o/ \o/

For me it's also definitely the Supermicro H8DG6-F indeed Since I bought the Supermicro H8DAE-2 ban in 2009 I don't want anything else than Supermicro, they really know how to make high quality hardware without flaws.
I only plan to use two EVGA GTX 680 SC SE 2GB's in 2-Way Hyper SLI and the soundcard I plan to use is aan Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1 PCI-E 64MB So I have enough slots for my needs this way.

As for that Wireless router ... erm no thx Also I run a Descent League:


And every time someone with a really bad pings enters my servers, he or she is on a wireless connection, this is something I always plan to avoid at all times.
If you want to create bad pings, Wireless is the way to go rofl!

It's all wired here, next step is a 24 Port OvisLink Gigabit Switch with Cat6 cables, nothing beats a wired connection as pings go.
I use my Opterons to Record, remix and play the games all at the same time, to record the footage I use Fraps, then I use VirtualDub AMD x64 Client to compile the recorded segments which Fraps made in to a raw avi file, these raw avi files can get to about 1TB in size, I then use DivX Convertor Pkux X64 Professional 8.2 to Convert the Raw Avi files to 1080p MPeg4 with AC3 Sound, here an example I did with a Just Cause2 remixed recording:


And here the finished result:


Here one I made last night, I fly as Tylo btw


Anyways with Hyper SLI I can continue playing even more detailed games plus recording and remixing them and making more video's per day too as my Descent League goes.
All this at same time without speed loss, but also at higher resolutions, I hope to go 2560 x 1600 one day, but that is something I plan on doing after Project G34 xD

Hyper SLI just gives you that extra support you always have been lacking with these new gen Dual Opteron motherboards, for us Dual Opty users it's the gateway to the best Multi-GPU solution!

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

Guess we should revive this thread since Gold Leader is planning on picking up where he left off and I'm about to start collecting parts for a similar build.

That I am my friend Thanks for the idea to get my old topic in life again, we also have to thank Aryan for his Hyper SLI, that is gonna solve a lot of worries for people like us <3 xDDDDDDD

I had an i7 with a X79 setups and I was very annoyed by the quality of the motherboard as it died on me within 7 days... an EVGA X79 FTW to be precise, I wasn't bothered RMA'ing it due to that the chance was large that I'd get another defect from someone else sent up, their VGA card segment is all good but their motherboards.. oh please, save your money and go Supermicro or ASUS I'm like, I'd even advise Tyan over EVGA any day.

So no more 1CPU Builds from me, it's gonna be 2CPU Opterons all the way, they never put me down, so I am expecting this build to be like all the other Dual Opterons I made --> Rock Solid and Issue Free

It might be an idea to fuse that other thread of mine with this one, I dunno if that is an idea?

[guruofhotrod]

Man, funny you say that as I'm fussing around with a ASUS P9X79 WS system with a i7 3930 and I've made quite a bit of progress on a unique water cooling setup but,
like you my heart is with the multi processor stuff - so much more robust! Gotta love it! I'm really torn - got some decisions to make.

[Rok]

I've gone back to my Dual C32 setup vs an overclocked FX8150... faster and cheaper to run.. Now I just need someone to develop some overclocking software for it Oh that and some 1600mhz DDR3 8gb sticks.

[guruofhotrod]

OOps, the newegg link didn't work as intended, it wasn't a router but a Intel 330 series SSD (180GB) for $99.00 - they sold quick and now they are back to $149.99

I fully agree on wireless - don't have any need for it, too many vulnerabilities.

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

OOps, the newegg link didn't work as intended, it wasn't a router but a Intel 330 series SSD (180GB) for $99.00 - they sold quick and now they are back to $149.99

I fully agree on wireless - don't have any need for it, too many vulnerabilities.

Ah those things, yeah I have one of their 330 series, a 120GB in the Dual Opty 2435 as main HDD It's not the best thing out there, but it gets the job done

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by Rok

I've gone back to my Dual C32 setup vs an overclocked FX8150... faster and cheaper to run.. Now I just need someone to develop some overclocking software for it Oh that and some 1600mhz DDR3 8gb sticks.

Way to go Rok! That's a nice setup too, are ya gonna give it a HD 7970 some day? These seem to be very nice for GPGPU
I always thought about going for a HD 6990 again, these are faster than the 7970's and more affordable than that Devil 13 thing from PowerColor, I miss my Radeon sometimes, especially their image quality they just have in advantage over the GeForce cards.
Glad to see you got your Duallie back to life again I'm sure it performs similar to a Dual OpteronDP 2439 SE? 2.8Ghz Istanbuls that are

[Rok]

I would love to do some sort of folding or crunching, but running WCG for a month costs about 80$ to run on the computer... Alaska has some of the highest if not the highest energy costs in the US... just too expensive to run full time.

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by Rok

I would love to do some sort of folding or crunching, but running WCG for a month costs about 80$ to run on the computer... Alaska has some of the highest if not the highest energy costs in the US... just too expensive to run full time.

Ah yeah I see what ya mean, but they can be used for other purposes also

[guruofhotrod]

Gold Leader, has Aryan had any chipset temp increase from running 3 way SLI? PCI-E load always seems to increase chipset temps and on a server board
that is not meant to carry a high powered graphics system this can be lethal (deadly) especially with passive cooling (no fan on the heatsink). I've had
several server boards converted to desktop use die for that reason (Tyan S2865 comes to mind) - simple fix, stick a small fan to it, problem solved

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

Gold Leader, has Aryan had any chipset temp increase from running 3 way SLI? PCI-E load always seems to increase chipset temps and on a server board
that is not meant to carry a high powered graphics system this can be lethal (deadly) especially with passive cooling (no fan on the heatsink). I've had
several server boards converted to desktop use die for that reason (Tyan S2865 comes to mind) - simple fix, stick a small fan to it, problem solved

Hmm that might be a good idea indeed Or just use Kepler based GPGPU's, they don't get hot at all really

I am using two EVGA GTX 680 SC SE 2GB's in 2-Way SLI in my Supermicro H8DAE-2 and they don't tend to get warm at all really, anyways not much higher than 65C or so under load

I use my Supermicro SIM LP-B IPMI 2.0 Card to measure any type of temp that is being made in my entire system.
Here it's gallery:


Another option is Everest Ultimate x64, this tool is capable of measuring any type of temperature, if you system has IPMI 2.0, you could use this to watch your temps as well, which I do mainly.

Anyways I will pass this on to Aryan himself, since he can give you the best answer