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[guruofhotrod]

Sorry to hear that Tom, hope you're better. Haven't had much time to spend on my computer stuff, finishing up a hot order on a custom dredge for a demanding customer in the Dominican Republic. Still saving for the H8DG6-F had a couple things get in the way but I may order it next week.

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by whooo?

Thanks for the replies to my questions guys.

I am sorry for being so late, but I have been more or less ill since Thanksgiving.

Oh noes, I hope you will get better soon then Also I hope your G34 project will come to life too someday, but health comes above everything

Hang in there mate

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

Sorry to hear that Tom, hope you're better. Haven't had much time to spend on my computer stuff, finishing up a hot order on a custom dredge for a demanding customer in the Dominican Republic. Still saving for the H8DG6-F had a couple things get in the way but I may order it net week.

Hmm a Custom dredge, what's that? Never heard of the term dredge before

As for my G34 project, I have sold all the i7 hardware and now I am working on my G34 duallie again, but saving up the Mobo, CPU.s Ram and CPU Coolers.

The Supermicro H8DG6-F is the first part then a pair of OpteronMP 6174's these still seem the most reasonable 12 cores to get, unless I can grab myself a cheap pair of 6180 SE's they are always welcome hehe.
After that I will start with 4x 8GB PC3-12800 ECC Reg from HP/Micron and I can always upgrade upwards as CPUs' and ram amount goes The H8DG6-F has plenty of upgrade headroom, makes it a wonderful motherboard choice

The Coolers I plan to use are a pair of Noctua NH-U9DO A3's and then I am ready to install Win7Pro x64 UK + SP1, with that Valkyrie SMP 2013 is born
It's still a long way to go, but I will get there eventually

[whooo?]

So, OK, what have you guys done with your G34 projects?

[MU_Engineer]

I currently have a single Opteron 6234 and 4x4 GB of Corsair DDR3-1600CL9 (XMP -> SPD flashed with the Darkswarm tools) on the Supermicro H8QGL. I will populate the rest of the CPU sockets when suitable CPUs start to show up for discount prices on the used market.

[Gold Leader]

No G34's here yet , my Dual 2435 still does everything I need it to and atm I am working on that Dual Pentium!!!/S 1400 Tualatin setup as my main 3dfx PC

Project G34 will have to wait until the end of thios year or Q1 next year. I can't do much atm, I have to wait until the prices drop, I don't feel like paying 600EUR+ for a 16 CPU and for a 2CPU system it's 2x 600 EUR +, left alone the shipping, Insurance & Custom taxes such things never make it easier for me.
So I plan to wait again, until I can grab a pair for a steal as I did with them 2435's, I grabbed two of them for 235 Eur incl Shipping & no custom taxes! And this was in 2012, two years after they were released on the market.

Thereby I think if I wait some more, things will be more affordable for me, as I am 100% disabled money flow doesn't arrive in shiploads as it does with some people I see around these forums, even that it might not be shiploads for you, it's always loads more than me, but that is just the way things are.

For me it's mostly the very hard way, which is for many in my position an impossible task. I have to save up and some new PC project can take at least 3 years if not more, that is the entire build from scrap to end
As those last parts go that can take about 9 to 12 months maybe more, it all depends. So there ya go, just kinda sux I guess, unless a miracle takes place, I have my great doubts on that.

The parts I need are the following:

2x 16 Core AMD OpteronMP 6380 OR-C0 Abu Dhabi
2x Noctua NH-U9DO A3 Coolers
Supermicro H8DG6-F --> I sold one, I found out that I should of kept it, I hate making failures like that
8x 8GB PC3-12800 ECC Reg HP/Micron Server Ram

And that is it Not much, but I am about half way and yeah I just hope to get this over and done with even before I turn 40 :X Unless a miracle happens.
It's that I don't want a cheaper mobo ram or cheaper CPU's, I really want those parts, so I'm like I am going to go for it, no matter how long it will take me to get there.

I have always learned, if you really want something so badly, you can achieve it, no matter how long it will take you to get to it
Thus I hang on to that hope.

Sorry for all of you waiting so long from my end, it's just lots harder than I thought, oh well.

[AXm 77]

Sold my H8DGi long time ago, crunching F@H.. on Tyan S8812 with 4 x 6176 and 16GB 1333

[Gold Leader]

What ever keeps your mind going I'm like I plan to use my Dual 6380 for HD Video compiling editing and rendering, it's my new hobby and I am sure them 6380's will do me lots of good What OS do you run with that Quad 6176? I suppose Win Server 2008 or 2012? or Linux based? I wonder

[guruofhotrod]

Originally Posted by whooo?

So, OK, what have you guys done with your G34 projects?

My Supermicro project has been on "the back burner" since just prior to Christmas, That was when my mother was admitted to our local hospital for fluid overload from a prednizone treatment that subsequently left her resembling a blistered water balloon, the doctor requested she go to the hospital for some I.V. diarrhetic to remove the excess fluid "It will only be a couple of days, she'll be out for Christmas" the doctor said, Well that was before the nurses decided to administer a drug called "Lovenox" A blood thinner that was supposed to prevent a stroke, within 2 days her blood pressure started dropping quickly and a large hematoma formed on her left side from her armpit to her waist, front to back. On December 26th she was "blacking out" as the nurse was attempting to have her sign a consent for blood, and at about 2:00 AM on the 27th she "coded", had to be resuscitated and wound up in the Intensive Care Unit on a ventilator! Her kidneys had shut down, liver was on the fritz, they were doing blood transfusions to get the blood thinner diluted - I'm sure you get the picture, not good. Since then my life has not been the same! On the positive side, through a tremendous amount of work on behalf of my sister and myself we have diligently worked together with the "Team" of specialists, and rehabilitation therapists to stabilize, plan and support her recovery. She lost her ability to swallow from the vent and still cannot swallow thin liquids as of yet (we are making progress though) her nourishment and medications are provided through a feeding tube directly to her stomach, water intake and diarrhetic have to be precisely adjusted daily by me in accordance to weight loss or gain, weekly lab work from blood draws, and her appearance (thin or puffy) This is a lot of work to manage! While working a 40 hour week! She is making forward progress though and hopefully will be able to eat and drink normally within the next month or two.

My funding for my G34 project has been diverted to a caregiver to watch mom while I'm at work (actually costs a little more than I take home) so, I have to wait to
see how much my tax return will be and perhaps I can then finish this project.

@Gold leader, Sorry for the late response I'm having trouble posting a picture of the Dredge machine I am in charge of manufacturing, I'll see if I still have a photobucket account and if so I'll edit in a link or two. OOps not photobucket, imageshack. Here you go:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/img1346a.jpg/

and http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/img1345q.jpg/

[uOpt]

Originally Posted by whooo?

So, OK, what have you guys done with your G34 projects?

I had to give up on AMD because of changed usage patterns. They do well enough for most things including compilers, but photo editing really isn't good with them.

[dave_graham]

I have dual 6276 single socket SM machines running ESXi for my home lab.

D

[whooo?]

Originally Posted by uOpt

I had to give up on AMD because of changed usage patterns. They do well enough for most things including compilers, but photo editing really isn't good with them.

Please elaborate on that. I have not had a problem using my Opterons for photo editing, but I am using old tech (Photoshop CS5 on a pair of 2222's). I would hate to spend the bucks on a new system and find out that I was worse off than before.

[uOpt]

Originally Posted by whooo?

Please elaborate on that. I have not had a problem using my Opterons for photo editing, but I am using old tech (Photoshop CS5 on a pair of 2222's). I would hate to spend the bucks on a new system and find out that I was worse off than before.

I simply stopwatched a bunch of activities like loading files and doing some raw conversions. All in Linux or FreeBSD of course.

[AXm 77]

Originally Posted by Gold Leader

... What OS do you run with that Quad 6176? I suppose Win Server 2008 or 2012? or Linux based? I wonder

Ubuntu 10.10 for F@H

[whooo?]

Originally Posted by uOpt

I simply stopwatched a bunch of activities like loading files and doing some raw conversions. All in Linux or FreeBSD of course.

Real quick to reply, ain't I?

I guess that does not apply to my needs then, as I run Photoshop CS5 on Windows XP64 (plan on going to Win7Pro x64 real soon now) with some GPU help. To go to PS CS6 or later, I will have to upgrade my video card too.

I just discovered that I can do some upgrades that will make my current 2p socket F system last maybe a year more (2x cores & 4x mem).

I do still find that a 2p system does better work for me than a 1p, even if the 1p is faster at a lot of things.

[guruofhotrod]

Tom,
It's also possible to pair your Quadro FX4500 with another to run them in SLI. That may also help your Photoshop performance - Do some research as some apps respond better to SLI than others.

On the subject of the thread topic, I finally got ahold of a H8DG6-F and am proceeding with my build albeit at a slower pace than originally expected. Pics will soon follow!!

[whooo?]

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

Tom,
It's also possible to pair your Quadro FX4500 with another to run them in SLI. That may also help your Photoshop performance - Do some research as some apps respond better to SLI than others.

On the subject of the thread topic, I finally got ahold of a H8DG6-F and am proceeding with my build albeit at a slower pace than originally expected. Pics will soon follow!!

Congradulations!

The problem with the FX4500's is that they have OpenGL 2.1, CS5 was the last version of Photoshop that would use that. I will have to move up at least one generation from that, probably better something that uses at least 4.0. I believe 4.3 is current.

I do not believe Photoshop benefits much from SLI nor Crossfire.

[whooo?]

Correction: I checked Nvidia's driver spec's and they say that with the latest driver the FX4500 will do OpenGL 3, you have to go with a Fermi processor or later card (Quadro 400 or above) for OpenGL 4. Photoshops site says that CS6 has only been checked with the Q400 and above card, but older cards may or may not work. PS also says, as I thought, that it does not benefit from multiple graphic cards.

As a result of that info, i have pushed off my G34 plans a bit. As a stop gap measure, I have just ordered a pair of 2389's and 16gb of 4gb memory. That ought to near double the CPU bound processes and make the computer maybe 10% faster over all. It will also give me some time to deal with some transportation problems, and getting my archive server back in business. So, I guess, I am back into that "someday" box.

[guruofhotrod]

Tom,
On the quad's, I know the Barcelona chips work but I can't say for sure the Shanghai chips will, either way you will need an 8mb BIOS chip.
I don't think the board you have came with one but, I still have a few and will send you one tomorrow.

[whooo?]

Thanks, Chris.

[guruofhotrod]

Finally! Just fired my H8DG6-F rig for the 1st time today! Actually worked out well to wait, was able to get my 1st SSD recently by collecting aluminum cans at work for extra $ - picked up a Samsung 840 Pro - 256 GB model, really nice! The system is running well with one exception, I'm trying to replicate Aryan's 3 way SLI setup using The HyperSLI patch and for the life of me I can't get it to work, if I run it with out the 3 way bridge I see the option to enable SLI but I can't select it and I get a message to install a SLI bridge, when I install a bridge (I have a couple to choose from) I get no SLI option, only Phys-X. I've tried several Nvidia drivers besides the #304.79 that Aryan used and no luck, same results. I did notice that Aryan was using Win Server 2012 compared to My rig running Win 7 x64 Ultimate - Could be part of the problem but, I kinda suspect not. Anyone got any ideas? I'll try to take a couple pics tonight or tomorrow and post em - cabling isn't the prettiest yet but it's functional at last!!! Gold Leader, Yours is next! How's your collection of parts coming along?

[Gold Leader]

Selling that Supermicro H8DG6-F to Aryan was the one thing where I truly failed this build, I should of never of sold it, not that he can do anything about it, really it isn't his fault, it is simply my own stupid fault of fail.

It's just one of them dumb mistakes I made again... I dunno why I did, even that I had it for like a year, I think I just kept getting that feeling that this project will never get completed due to the high prices of the CPU's I would need to get it up and running.

So it seems it's not working out for me yet, I am 1000% disabled and the prices are too insane here, no go on my end I still have everything except the most expensive parts which are the CPU's Ram and Mobo also th CPU coolers are lacking, I might pass on this until I can get things more affordable, the CPU's I want are at least the 6380's and these are just out of my price range, I could go for cheaper CPU's but selling them in a later stage would only give me loss.

Other options are to sell my K8N-DL system and the Dual 850M setup, Mobo CPU's and everything in it except the HIS HD 3870 AGP and the PC Flashed V5 5500 PCI Mac.
As being 100% disabled it is very hard for me to acquire such high priced parts, even that I'd really love to have them, it's just impossible for me now.

An Intel Core i7 3930K with ASUS P9X79 E WS + 4x 8GB DDR3-1600 Kingston Hyper-X 3 is a better choice for my needs, I can get all of this for just 1300 euro. This motherboard also has native SLI & CFX support over 4x PCI-E 3.0 x16 slots with the full 64 PCI-E 3.0 lanes, so fan no motherboard has this except the ASUS P9X79 E WS and with this I could destroy the Dual Istanbul I have now and probably keep up with a Dual Piledriver setup alike, this mobo also supports the 8 Core Xeon E5 2690 CPU, and this mobo has good Overclock options too, so i dunno as the H8DG6-F goes, the ASUS P9X79 E WS also has much more SATA III connections too, all in all it has the better package and costs about 100 euro less than the H8DG6-F, I only need one CPU the 3930K has a very good history for what it is capable of, these are priced under 480 euro. still high but since it is only one, it's less much of a hassle, I think my budget is 1400 euro max, I just can't afford more on any type of upgrade and with this I will still have a very high end and up to date workstation.

AMD has disappointed me with their new Abu Dhabi series, anyways I hope you get more out of your system it seems you could afford it over me, and really I'd prefer the H8DG6-F any day, even over this Intel setup, but yer it seems I am kind of running out of options as the damn funding goes. :\

I guess buying them two 2435's for 235 USD incl shipping back in 2012 was a really good find, one in a million I guess, now if I could get a similar deal for a pair of 6380's then I could think different about this project, only if I could wish this heh, since paying 648 Euro+ per CPU isn't my kind of fun, I just wish such things are less complicated for me It also seems that I just have lost track of it all

The long I wait the older the H8DG6-F will get and I don't feel like spending lots of money in outdated hardware either. In the end I kinda hate myself for making the same mistakes over and over again, I have not purchased anything yet since I can't afford anything yet, it could be that my computer life is ending also...Well it sometimes feels like that :\

Sorr for sounding so negative on you guys, really I am glad you got your all up and running! It's that I just got out of some major depression also, things haven't been going so well on my end :X

[guruofhotrod]

Man, that's a real bummer, I was hoping things were working out better for you, it took me quite awhile to get this thing to where I could start it for the first time
and was really hoping the HyperSLI would work without any issues but, that's unfortunately not the case! I'm having a tough time with the 3 way SLI and need to
get some advice from Aryan to get this worked out. Right now I've got 2 6136's, 8 x 4GB DDR3 1600 Gskill, 3 x 260 GTX Core216's, 1 x Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB SSD
with a PCP&C Turbocool 1200 powering it and running 2 x Corsair H80's cooling the CPU's other than the HyperSLI difficulties it runs real well! Hopefully Aryan can provide some advice on getting the 3 way SLI working.

[aryan]

the H8DG6-F has two AMD bridges I got 3 way SLI going by stacking them at the same bridge. In my case that is PCIe Slot 5,4 & 3. I've used PCIe extenders to do that trick. http://www.supermicro.nl/manuals/mot...DGi(6)(-F).pdf < manual with motherboard schematics.

IMHO it doesn't matter what OS you're running, I've done the trick on 8, 2012 and 2012r2 is underway as I type, hehe It's a hardware thing. I got the single screen Quad SLI on different bridges going though. Surround, that is dependant on the broadcast, gave me a black screen.

I now use the other SLI method, called other SLI, from the same coder that brought us HyperSLI, and used the latest drivers. So yeah... there ya'll have it.

[Gold Leader]

If I'd ever get my H8DG6-F setup up and running [Dreams deeply about it rofl ] With that I only plan to run 2-Way SLI with the two EVGA GeForce GTX 680 SuperClocked Signature Edition 2GB's which I have now in main setup with the 2435 D0's, which are these two beauties

[guruofhotrod]

So, It's not gonna work on the three PCIe x 16 slots (2,4, and 6) since they aren't on the same bridge? not what I was hoping to hear but, I'll give it a try (have to find some extenders and figure out how to stuff the mess in a case LOL) But nobody has been able to run3 way SLI across the two bridges? Was really hoping for dual G34's with 3 way SLI in surround? We'll see what the future holds. Running on slots 2,4, and 6 - I get the 3 cards showing in Nvidia control panel and it shows a SLI option but you cannot enable it and there is a notice to install the SLI bridge but when I install the bridge, the SLI enable option disappears and all that is shown are the physX options? - Thanks

Just noticed on the block diagram that PCIe slots #3,5,and 6 are on SR5690#1 and PCIe #1,2, and 4 are on SR5690#2 were you on 3,5,and 6
or 3,4,and 5? 3,4, and 5 would be going across the 2 chipsets, right?

I'll try to take a couple pics today and post em.

[guruofhotrod]

Here it is:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/8zsm.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/v6a4.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/9j0t.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/eun.jpg/

Still a work in progress but, at least it's coming along

[Gold Leader]

Looks lovely!! Great to see you G34 dream to have come true, as for my new system it's going to be something different but certainly a 2CPU build, there is no way I am going 1CPU haha
But yer, I am not gonna post any specs yet, I will do that once the mobo has been acquired

[MU_Engineer]

Gold Leader, why not go and buy some inexpensive 8-core G34 chips to get that machine up off the ground and then buy faster CPUs later when the price drops? For example, most of the 8-core Opteron 6100s are dirt cheap. 2.0 GHz 6128s go for about $30 each and 2.3 GHz 6134s go for under $50 apiece. You probably spend $30 in power in keeping the three GTX 680s on for a month for crying out loud.

[Gold Leader]

Not in the country where I live, the 6134's are still about 328 euro's a piece here, I live in The Netherlands man, such CPUs are too expensive for me even if I'd buy them in USA the Custom taxes would totally rip me off. The 6128's would be a waste of money too as they have the same performance to the 2435's I have now.

For example:
For 250 euro's in Hong Kong I have the Xeon E5 2660 8 Core/16 thread CPU, the Motherboard I choose to use is the ASUS Z9PE -D8-WS, which has SATAIII, USB 3.0 & PCI-E 3.0 with 4-Way SLI & CFX support and this board is about 110 euro's cheaper than the H8DG6-F, but has so many more new gen features.

I could buy cheaper CPU's for the G34, but I'd only make loss when selling them in the end, this Intel Setup is my better bet for where I live.
But it would still be by next year to get it up and running, as for G34 the longer I wait the more obsolete it gets, this Dual LGA 2011 setup is newer, it is faster and it is cheaper too.

Anyhow, that too being out of range at the moment, all I can do is save up more and try to sell things I don't find of need. As I don't plan buying things to which I have no money for yet.

Being 100% disabled is just hard, even for saving up 1400 Euro's, yeah it is doable, but what you guys do in a half year I will need about four years to complete, I have no job I am chronically Ill all which makes such things very complicated for me, maybe I have over judged myself, but that shall never lessen my will for such things, if it's gonna take me longer to reach my goals, then it is so

Sorry MU_Engineer for sounding like so negative and like some broken soul, you mean well but it's not that simple on my end. :\

If I'd be buying new CPU's, I try to buy them in Hong-Kong, South Korea or Germany and no where else, just to keep the shipping and custom taxes at their lowest.

Most of the hardware which I have obtained was by selling collections I have had to which I don't have anymore either.

As power goes, that is all-in in the the apartment I live in, so even if my VGA cards would use 375 watts I would not notice no change in it.
Anyways I haven''t done anything yet, As I have no funds for any of such things yet. The Crisis also got to me hard.

[dave_graham]

finally getting my 6376s. which now means i have 6176, 6276, and now 6376 CPUs. starting a collection, it appears.