Club G34 xD For All Your G34 Solutions & Needs :)

[Gold Leader]

Hmmm it would of been smarter to save up for the CPU's you aimed for than buying cheaper ones first and them reselling them again, in the end you only make loss and that is what I am trying to avoid.
Nice upgrade though, I hope they serve you well

It's that I have no A-Class Job like most here, I am no where near that of being rich either, everything that I have collected and bought was before I got Ill and before that concussion I had.

So I have to do it all the hard way, if I have parts to sell, that is one way, but if I have nothing to sell that will really help me get anywhere, which now is the case, I have to save up very slowly, not mentioning all the other costs I have like taxes and such ... *ugh*

Sometimes I think I should sell everything I have and find a different hobby, but I know that isn't the way out, even the urge for that is really getting bigger.
Oh well it is what it is I guess. :/ Sorry for sounding depressive, but it's just how my Aspergers goes on with me sometimes.

[whooo?]

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

Here it is:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/8zsm.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/v6a4.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/9j0t.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/eun.jpg/

Still a work in progress but, at least it's coming along

Is that thing ever bright, kind of looks like an old jukebox. I am the kind of guy that tapes over the LED's.

[Slash]

Coming together nicely. I'm guessing your favorite color is green?

[Gold Leader]

I'd add some BLOO erm blue dots on it xDDD Blue and Green look kinda mean xDDDDD

[MU_Engineer]

Originally Posted by Gold Leader

Not in the country where I live, the 6134's are still about 328 euro's a piece here, I live in The Netherlands man, such CPUs are too expensive for me even if I'd buy them in USA the Custom taxes would totally rip me off. The 6128's would be a waste of money too as they have the same performance to the 2435's I have now.

For example:
For 250 euro's in Hong Kong I have the Xeon E5 2660 8 Core/16 thread CPU, the Motherboard I choose to use is the ASUS Z9PE -D8-WS, which has SATAIII, USB 3.0 & PCI-E 3.0 with 4-Way SLI & CFX support and this board is about 110 euro's cheaper than the H8DG6-F, but has so many more new gen features.

I could buy cheaper CPU's for the G34, but I'd only make loss when selling them in the end, this Intel Setup is my better bet for where I live.
But it would still be by next year to get it up and running, as for G34 the longer I wait the more obsolete it gets, this Dual LGA 2011 setup is newer, it is faster and it is cheaper too.

Anyhow, that too being out of range at the moment, all I can do is save up more and try to sell things I don't find of need. As I don't plan buying things to which I have no money for yet.

Being 100% disabled is just hard, even for saving up 1400 Euro's, yeah it is doable, but what you guys do in a half year I will need about four years to complete, I have no job I am chronically Ill all which makes such things very complicated for me, maybe I have over judged myself, but that shall never lessen my will for such things, if it's gonna take me longer to reach my goals, then it is so

Sorry MU_Engineer for sounding like so negative and like some broken soul, you mean well but it's not that simple on my end. :\

If I'd be buying new CPU's, I try to buy them in Hong-Kong, South Korea or Germany and no where else, just to keep the shipping and custom taxes at their lowest.

Most of the hardware which I have obtained was by selling collections I have had to which I don't have anymore either.

As power goes, that is all-in in the the apartment I live in, so even if my VGA cards would use 375 watts I would not notice no change in it.
Anyways I haven''t done anything yet, As I have no funds for any of such things yet. The Crisis also got to me hard.

I forgot you were in NL. That does complicate things as you possibly don't have as much access to very inexpensive used parts like the $30 6128s on sites like eBay. That's how I get pretty well all of my stuff- it's typically a year or two post-release and either used or a closeout on EOL parts. I also collect various parts slowly over time and have done some trading up as well.

I have a job but it wouldn't call it "A-class" by any means. I'll leave it at that, else I will get woefully off topic in a rant about the idiocy of "higher education" and the massive dump that the highly corrupt, heavy-handed government takes on anybody who wants to try to do something besides sit on the couch, eat potato chips, smoke, watch daytime TV, and pop out an army of illegitimate kids.

[Gold Leader]

Well I don't smoke anymore, which saves me about 1536 Euro's a year, but most of this money goes in the costs of my apartment, internet, water and electro heh, due to the Euro Crisis here in the EU I have to pay higher taxes for everything, per month I have about 250 Euro to spend on food, drinks and maybe about 100 to 150 euro's for my PC's maybe even less, it's really not so pretty but I have enough to make it through and you won't see me complaining about that, that never

But It's no way near on what I had before I got Ill and 100% disabled and I just can't stand it sometimes, the days can get quite long at times even I try to be outside a lot help my father with his organic garden just to get through my days.
So for such things I will take it slow or sell hardware when and If I can of course Sometimes you have to let go of something precious to take on the new, it's how I have been doping it for quite sometime, it is hard for me to keep everything.

As for the 6128, that CPU is a waste of money I have two 2435 Istanbuls these perform a bit faster than the 6128's Aryan and I ran BarsWF x64 CUDA Client and we took measurements, my CPU's do in total about 443 Mhashes per sec his about 415 Mhashes per Sec, which is less than my 2435's from 2010 :P So for that I would not go forward.

Here his Dual 6128's @ 16x 2.0Ghz results with OC'ed ASUS GTX 590 & 2x OC'ed BFG GTX 260 C216's:


Here my Dual 2435's @ 12x 2.6Ghz results with 2x EVGA GTX 680 SC Sigs:


The 6174/6274 would be more appealing for me, but these are still like 328 Euro's in my country, but for 291 Euro's I have an Intel Xeon E5 2660 8 Core/16 Thread CPU with base speed of 2.2Ghz & Turbo of 3.0Ghz from HK incl shipping to my country, Only I would have to go to strange waters when going for that and I will always to go Dual Opteron, as it's what I am used to working with, so this is a no go also.

When I build a new Dual CPU system, such things can really take years, but in the end it will be worth every penny I put in to it. Only due to the stupid mistakes I made with this project in general I could of had it running about a year ago, but due to my crippled mind I made very bad moves and this is probably why I only made loss than progress.

Selling the H8DG6-F was my first bad move, going Intel X79 with EVGA's X79 FTW was my other bad move, I was able to sell it all, but that only gave me loss, so with that money I bought them EVGA GTX 680 SC Signatures, so I could at least come along quite well with the Dual 2435 I still use now as my main.

Yes I made mistakes, if not too many, but I will complete my task no matter how long it will take me, I know for sure it will take a damn long time but it will pay off in the end.

Patience has always been my strong part, for projects like this or collecting ultra rare things.

Last night I gave this all a deep thought and yes there will be light at the end of this dark long tunnel

I just want to thank everyone here @ 2CPU.com for helping me with a lot of 2CPU based things, I could of done it myself, but all the knowledge I have learned from you all here, I am just proud that all of you here have helped me with such things,for that I thank you all greatly

[whooo?]

I am about in the same shape as you only USD instead of Euros. The government over here likes to give you a $25 Social Security raise, then take $35 in other benefits away, not counting the benefits they just do completely away with (free classes at the University for senior citizens, eyeglasses and even the exam for them, are just a couple of examples that particularly irk me).

Folks suggesting 6128's or the ilk, are doing so from the viewpoint, I think, of having something that works while waiting on better cpu's. Since you have a working system, you ought to just hold on to your money until you have enough to build the new system on hand. I just hang until I can afford to buy the MB, processors, and ram together. Why spend money on something that is likely to be out of date before you use it? If your system is anything like ours, you may need to keep the money in your sock drawer, or they will cut some of your benefits because you have money in the bank.

[Gold Leader]

Yeah that is how I play my cards, I only buy something when I am up for it, if I don''t have the money there is no need proceeding, Wealth care in The Netherlands is known to be the best in the world, we do get 70% from our work loan in situations like me, but with all payments done I have just enough to make it through per month, so if a normal person can build anew system in like 8 months it would take me about 4 years maybe longer to accomplish the same, this is also why I build Dual CPU setups, their lifespan is the key, make something very powerful and ride it out, even when it gets old you can still keep up with all of them 1CPU things out there.
But you are right, I see where you are coming at Thank for understanding me

I just don't plan on wasting money on old 1CPU based setups anymore, that was never the way to go for my doings.

Tech like a G34 will last for many years, even that a Dual E5 2660 may be faster it just seems to be more expensive for me in the end, for 2x 170 eur incl shipping I have two Opty 6140's for about the same money I have one E5 2660, so I guess I know what I am going to do, just continue what I planned on building first, Dual G34 and nothing else.

As for them 6128's, thanks for the idea, but to be honest they are a waste of time and money for me, as them BarsWF results show, my 2435's from 2010 are faster than them 6128's, so as that goes, getting 6128's will only be a degrade to me.

[MU_Engineer]

Originally Posted by whooo?

I am about in the same shape as you only USD instead of Euros. The government over here likes to give you a $25 Social Security raise, then take $35 in other benefits away, not counting the benefits they just do completely away with (free classes at the University for senior citizens, eyeglasses and even the exam for them, are just a couple of examples that particularly irk me).

I'll try to be polite here but remember that you are getting at least $3 in Social Security payments for every dollar you ever paid in- even if you paid in the maximum amount of Social Security tax allowed (e.g. your income was at or above the $100k-and-change cap level.) The rest of that money comes out of my paycheck. If you are on Social Security you are nearly certainly on either Medicare or Medicaid, of which those are about 15% of my paycheck. The remaining 85% mostly goes towards government monopoly student loans at government-mandated inflated rates to pay for my now-mandatory piece of paper stating I attended college. The tuition of course increased to roughly double every four years, and also of course, it takes longer than four years even when you are "on the straight arrow path" to complete. When I would be old enough to think about collecting Social Security (at age 72, one year before I am predicted to die- and note life expectancy is *shortening* as we go along), if Social Security is even around, it will be so heavily means tested that if I have a dollar of my own to my name, I won't get any of my Social Security tax money back. Think about those facts just a second before you complain about Social Security payments.

Folks suggesting 6128's or the ilk, are doing so from the viewpoint, I think, of having something that works while waiting on better cpu's. Since you have a working system, you ought to just hold on to your money until you have enough to build the new system on hand. I just hang until I can afford to buy the MB, processors, and ram together. Why spend money on something that is likely to be out of date before you use it?

I nearly always buy used/older parts because that's all I can afford. See the above for where the money from my ~80 hours per week of work go. I probably would have been more accurate in saying that I haven't upgraded my systems due to lack of money and lack of actually having much time to use them! You learn to pay for things that prevent armed thugs (IRS enforces payment of student loans) from coming in at 2:30 AM and kicking in your landlord-owned door you will have to pay 200% the cost to replace. Oh, I don't own my own house, I can't come up with the 20% down payment to get a loan. But all of you who were lucky enough to massively overspend on houses 10 years ago on a 105% loan-to-value, $0 down loan get bailed out using my tax money and get to live in the house that you can't pay for. You're welcome.

If your system is anything like ours, you may need to keep the money in your sock drawer, or they will cut some of your benefits because you have money in the bank.

Thank you for your tax evasion. I can't even decide to keep any money in a sock drawer. I not only don't have any money, but if I get any, it ALL gets taxed. Case in point, if I even claim a reimbursement for any expenses such as employer-mandated travel that I pay for out of my own pocket. I get to pay 40+% in Social Security, Medicare, Medicare, federal income, and state income taxes on that money because it must be reported on a 1099. Yay, I have to pay $1000 for a plane ticket to go to some craphole city (half of that price is taxes, too) for business or get fired and only get $600 back! Gotta love that! Do work and lose money in an attempt to maybe actually break even later in the future, and then get taxed out the ass if you actually make any money! Meanwhile I still am accruing interest on those student loans even if I lose money. Gotta love life as an under-40 person in this wonderful country!

There are massive civil wars going on in this country, a generational economic war between the Baby Boomers and the WWII generation against the Generation X and younger generations and a war between those who have any shred of a work ethic and the mooches. I just wish that we could treat this as a real civil war and secede. I don't need a bunch of bums and loudmouthed, arrogant, demeaning grayhairs around, but I sure could use the money back that they are stealing from me.

That's my $0.02. It would have been a dollar but the government took the rest.

[Gold Leader]

YEEESSSS!!!!!The outcome has come to me at last!!!!


With great thanks to the price drops of the 8-Core AMD OpteronMP 6140 I can now easily afford two of these, with the Supermicro H9DG6-F and the needed ram & Noctua 92Mil coolers to get my Project G34 setup back in action, what I did was waited and waited until the time was right for me to continue my project G34 and I promise you people here @ 2CPU.com that this will work out for me now, I did some searching for 6140's today and they are all around 162 to 182 Euro's and that is all way under the 235 Euro mark I was so happy to find this out today!

Before I turn 37 this year Valkyrie SMP 2013 will be up and running!

So here his new layout!
[The Royal Blue Bolded Parts have been obtained]

2x 8-Core AMD OpteronMP 6140 D1 Mangy Cours Server CPU's @ 16x 2.6Ghz Many many MANY thanks to guruofhotrod for his great help for helping me aquire two of these beauties for a good deal !!!!!!
Supermicro H8DG6-F
4x 8GB PC3-12800 ECC Reg HP/Micron or Kingston
2x Noctua NH-U9DO A3's
2x EVGA GeForce GTX 680 SuperClocked Signature Edition 2048MB's in 2-Way Hyper SLI
Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1 PCI-E 64MB XRAM
1x Corsair Force3 240GB SATA III SSD
1x Plextor PX-B950SA BR-RW Single Layer, Dual Layer & DR-3D BR-RW Supported
Lian Li Tyr PC-X2000B
Lian Li W-X2000B Side Window Kit
SeaSononic Platrinum-X 1000 Watt 100% Modular PSU
2x 30 CM Green CCFL's from Revoltec
2x 30 CM White CCFL's from Revoltec
2x 10 CM Blue CCFL's from Revoltec

Anyhow Project G34 will continue thanks to this great opportunity! Hereby I will keep this thread updated with new additions, it won't go fast, but it will take it's place slowly

In total for the missing parts I will need about 1100 a 1200 Euro's which is very doable for me, so no more Dual E5's from me, I am sticking to my oath, Dual Opterons for life, We gotta keep this idea alive guys! 8)
Hereby I hope to keep this thread up to date with this long on going project, sorry for all the delays, I just made some dumb mistakes and I still hate my self for making them, Anyways it's time to move on and complete this damn thing once and for all. With the 6140's I still have the sweet core speed of 2.6Ghz and I have more cores in total, a faster chipset, much greater ram bus per CPU also all in all it will be better than the Dual 2435 I am using now, just perfect

[guruofhotrod]

Gold Leader,
I never got an answer to my question to aryan about clarifying the slot layout he used for 3 way SLI - I got some 8X to 16X extenders and tried several different combos
with no success the closest I got was slots 3,5,and 6 got all 3 cards to show in the Nvidia control panel, could choose any of them for PhysX but, no SLI

Also does the driver have any effect on things? I noticed aryan was using 304.79 - I just located it on Nvidia's site and downloaded it. Looks like at least 1 card will be on a PCI-E X4 (electrical) slot. Hopefully that will be sufficient.

Quote:
"the H8DG6-F has two AMD bridges I got 3 way SLI going by stacking them at the same bridge. In my case that is PCIe Slot 5,4 & 3. I've used PCIe extenders to do that trick."

Quote:
"Just noticed on the block diagram that PCIe slots #3,5,and 6 are on SR5690#1 and PCIe #1,2, and 4 are on SR5690#2 were you on 3,5,and 6
or 3,4,and 5? 3,4, and 5 would be going across the 2 chipsets, right?"

Thanks for your help

[DaveB]

Originally Posted by MU_Engineer

There are massive civil wars going on in this country, a generational economic war between the Baby Boomers and the WWII generation against the Generation X and younger generations and a war between those who have any shred of a work ethic and the mooches. I just wish that we could treat this as a real civil war and secede. I don't need a bunch of bums and loudmouthed, arrogant, demeaning grayhairs around, but I sure could use the money back that they are stealing from me.

That's my $0.02. It would have been a dollar but the government took the rest.

You're awful whiny for an able bodied youngster. I've been working full time since 1968, paying into Social Security and Medicare the whole time along with paying Federal and State taxes at higher rates than today. So now a little turd like you thinks I should just drop dead and give it all to you? I don't think so.

My father died when I was 5 so I was raised dirt poor. I started working in high school, attended a 2 year college and went to work at 19 -and yeah, I needed a student loan to even do that. Then I attended night school while working so I could get better jobs in the future. I've never gotten a hand-out from anybody and was only out of work for a single 5-week period in 1975. And I paid my college loan with interest much higher that it is today.

And for your information, my daughter finished her BS at George Mason University in 3 years, something you state isn't possible. I also did not apply for any grants because they should go to the truly poor, not middle class working people who can afford it. I've paid my full share for my 45 years of full-time work, and now I'll get partial health care coverage (I'll still have to pay for Part b coverage) and some social security payments on top of my 30% pension from the major corporation I work for. I'll end up with about 60% of what I make now on the job. If that bothers you, too bad.

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by guruofhotrod

Gold Leader,
I never got an answer to my question to aryan about clarifying the slot layout he used for 3 way SLI - I got some 8X to 16X extenders and tried several different combos
with no success the closest I got was slots 3,5,and 6 got all 3 cards to show in the Nvidia control panel, could choose any of them for PhysX but, no SLI

Also does the driver have any effect on things? I noticed aryan was using 304.79 - I just located it on Nvidia's site and downloaded it. Looks like at least 1 card will be on a PCI-E X4 (electrical) slot. Hopefully that will be sufficient.

Quote:
"the H8DG6-F has two AMD bridges I got 3 way SLI going by stacking them at the same bridge. In my case that is PCIe Slot 5,4 & 3. I've used PCIe extenders to do that trick."

Quote:
"Just noticed on the block diagram that PCIe slots #3,5,and 6 are on SR5690#1 and PCIe #1,2, and 4 are on SR5690#2 were you on 3,5,and 6
or 3,4,and 5? 3,4, and 5 would be going across the 2 chipsets, right?"

Thanks for your help

Well I passed this on to Aryan via FaceBook, I also asked him to make a reply here Thereby hoping he can explain it better, as I have never researched this yet, since Valkyrie SMP 2013 isn't up and running yet hehe xD Won't take long now within 2 to 3 months my Dual 6140 D1 should be ready for it's first test flight, so stay tuned for that, I thank you soooo much for helping me with them 6140 D1's guruofhotrod, really I owe you one man, if there is anything I can help you with lemmie know man

[guyr]

Originally Posted by Gold Leader

2x Noctua NH-U9DO A3's

You'll like those Noctua's. I have the exact same ones as the larger ones wouldn't fit on the Asus KCMA-D8. They are completely silent, and keep the CPUs very cool (2x 4234 - 20 C). They are so quiet that whenever I have the cover off, I make sure to check that they are still working .

[Gold Leader]

Originally Posted by guyr

You'll like those Noctua's. I have the exact same ones as the larger ones wouldn't fit on the Asus KCMA-D8. They are completely silent, and keep the CPUs very cool (2x 4234 - 20 C). They are so quiet that whenever I have the cover off, I make sure to check that they are still working .

Awww niiice xDDDD I dunno how good they will cool my OpteronMP 6140 D1's though, as they have a larger surface than the C32 types you are using, so I think more airflow would be needed to cool them perhaps?

But yeah it all all looking very good on my end, I just never expected it to turn out like this all of a sudden Your 4234's are that 6 cores or 8 cores? C32 looks a lot like Socket F but with Dual Channel DDR3-1600 ECC Reg support over Dual Channel DDR2 800 support

But yeah it feel good to be building a new 2CPU setup again 2CPU.com Because two are better than one! xD --> Seems legit

[guruofhotrod]

My 6134's idle at around 30c with the 92mm Noctua's, the 6140's are idling around 19-21c running Corsair H80 closed loop liquid coolers with custom modded mounts

[Gold Leader]

haha niiiice, only a Corsair H80 won't fit in my Tyr rofl, so I will stick with them Noctua's

[aryan]

sup all,

With my rig currently under construction for an upgrade it took me some time to get near a PC, so here I am @work typing the reply

The thing is, back in the day when GL bought the mobo ( that I bought from him at a later stage, SRY for that RLY ) HyperSLI was a way to get SLI going on non-SLI certified board by injecting an ASUS SLI certificate. With that out off the way there are nowadays several ways to enable SLI on the AMD board.

HyperSLI is one, but also modified drivers with the SLI certificate in it are avaliable at the same site. With that in mind you do need to enable the test driver mode in windows from http://www.ngohq.com/?page=dseo

Keep in mind that SLi likes or rather in surround mode needs PCIe broadcasts and with 2 PCIe bridges in our board it is important to understand that SLI needs to be done on the same bridge preferably, but since the newer all-in-one drivers I found not mandatory in single screen SLI mode.

In other words: I got quad SLI going with one 590 installed on a PCIe lane connected with one bridge and the other with the other 590 installed. But then only in single screen SLI, enabling surround SLI with 3 screens caused a BSOD.

Having said that I use the newest BIOS from the SuperMicro site, different BIOSes in the GTX590 ( that definately a todo )

Having installed 2 590s on the board causes wayyy to much heat, so right now I'm working on an extra case that will have both boards, and at a later stage when possible, 3 GTX590s. the 260 are planned to be placed inside the board without extenders.

Hope it helped ya'll a bit.

aryan

[MU_Engineer]

Originally Posted by DaveB

You're awful whiny for an able bodied youngster. I've been working full time since 1968, paying into Social Security and Medicare the whole time along with paying Federal and State taxes at higher rates than today. So now a little turd like you thinks I should just drop dead and give it all to you? I don't think so.

First of all, if you dropped over dead, I wouldn't get a cent. It would be your fellow Baby Boomers as well as the WWII generation who are getting Social Security. I wouldn't get a nickel.

Secondly, taxes are not really lower now than previously. The top bracket was higher in the 1970s but it took a LOT more income to reach that bracket- and there were more deductions. You could deduct high interest from ANYTHING during the high-interest days, including credit cards. Now? Nope, don't even think about it, the IRS will be up your butt in a nanosecond. The upper brackets have also been inching down into the middle class as well and more people get hit by the AMT now than ever as well. You also forget that the reason taxes seem "lower" now than in the recent past is because Clinton briefly jacked up taxes in the 1990s. Our taxes now are higher than they were since the Carter Administration, except for a brief bump during Clinton's term. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the payroll taxes were a hell of a lot lower during "your day" as well. You conveniently forgot those as that's not generally considered an income tax- but most certainly is.

Third, you were able to ride out an overall very good economy in a still-free country. I live in a socialist police state. If you wonder why this "able bodied (not really so) youngster" is "whiny" try to wrap your head around trying to get a decent start on life in this awful environment. You got to take advantage of the last vestiges of the rest of the industrialized world being bombed to hell and back in WWII, Asia being little more than rice paddies, and also the last vestiges of reasonable people in the government. We have Barack Hussein Obama and the scandal-ridden cabinet who openly lies to the public imposing massive regulatory costs on everybody, killing private enterprise.

My father died when I was 5 so I was raised dirt poor. I started working in high school, attended a 2 year college and went to work at 19 -and yeah, I needed a student loan to even do that. Then I attended night school while working so I could get better jobs in the future. I've never gotten a hand-out from anybody and was only out of work for a single 5-week period in 1975. And I paid my college loan with interest much higher that it is today.

Today you can't get much of a job when you are only 19 with an AA or AS degree. If you do, it's a barely above minimum wage retail job which has much less earning power than a similar job in 1970. You used to be able to get those kinds of jobs when you dropped out of high school. A job that required an AA/AS in the '70s is a bachelor's at a minimum today. And you are lucky if you can even get a job as an under-40 white male is the least hireable person out there. Old farts like you can claim age discrimination and get chosen over folks who are not in a "protected class." (That "it's only discrimination against old people/gays/blacks/women" stuff is yet more garbage your generation cooked up as well. Thanks.) We're also being limited to <27 hrs if hourly by Obamacare as well, which is lovely. If you are salaried, you don't work a 40 hour week like people did in the 1970s, you work more like 70 hours/week because you need to do two peoples' work on one person's salary and benefits. You also could deduct your student loan interest from your taxes. Me? I can barely deduct any of mine as there is a low cap on that. I pay and pay and pay.

And for your information, my daughter finished her BS at George Mason University in 3 years, something you state isn't possible. I also did not apply for any grants because they should go to the truly poor, not middle class working people who can afford it. I've paid my full share for my 45 years of full-time work, and now I'll get partial health care coverage (I'll still have to pay for Part b coverage) and some social security payments on top of my 30% pension from the major corporation I work for. I'll end up with about 60% of what I make now on the job. If that bothers you, too bad.

You have a pension? Those are like dinosaurs- history books have references to them but nobody my age working in the private sector has ever seen one in person. A 100% employee-contributed 401k is about as good as it gets. Yay, I get to pay for all of my own retirement and then get to pay for yours too! Also, you have NOT paid your full share as I posted above. Even with working 45 years and paying Social Security, you still only paid in at most about $1 for every $3 you get in benefits if you live to an average age. I am also paying for your Medicare as well. I won't get a red cent from either program, I am 100% sure of that. Don't complain that I am giving up at least 15% of my paycheck to pay for your retirement and healthcare- and that's just the payroll tax portions that pay for those programs.

We can keep up this up as long as you want. Your Baby Boomer generation, aka the "Me Generation," and the one before it really crapped in the nation's lunch pail with the highly selfish socialist entitlement garbage. You borrowed a bunch of money to pay for entitlements, shipped jobs overseas to get goods at slightly lower prices, and allowed the government to massively balloon in order to give your generation free stuff. My generation and the ones after it have to foot the bill. Of course we are going to be upset!

The mods should probably move this to the Vent/Coffee Lounge because it is massively off topic.

[whooo?]

Back in the 70's & 80's there were a half-million IT people and a million computer jobs.

So guys like you went into computers in the 90's. And what do you know, then there were 5 million IT guys and still only those million jobs.

Then in the aughts even dumber people got into computers and soon there were 15 million people competing for those million jobs. They of course blamed the people who got into computers in the seventies for their not being able to get those high paying computer jobs. Dumb people always blame someone else for their problems.

Of course there is nothing new about this, back in the mid-eighteen hundreds, farmer Jones noticed that everyone was raising corn, so he planted wheat and made twice as much as the other farmers. After a few years the other farmers noticed that Jones was making more than they were, so they planted wheat too. That of course caused a surplus of wheat on the market and they continued to make nothing just as they had when they were all planting corn instead of wheat. Somehow that was farmer Jones fault.

Also, people do not seem to realize that there are economic cycles, and that we are currently at the bottom of the 11 year one which has another year to run before it starts to improve. There are also longer and shorter ones that sometimes overlap the 11 year one making things better or worse than usual. That 11 year cycle has happened all my life (70 years now), but you almost never hear it mentioned (except by me). And, no, it has nothing to do with the sunspot cycle.

I live off of half the SS I should be getting (because I listened to bad advice when I became disabled), so I need some welfare to get by. MU Engineer in his ignorance, accused me of tax evasion, how that could be when I would have to have three times the income I actually have to have to even file a tax return, I do not know. On the other hand if I had another $100 a month or more than about $500 in the bank I would lose Medicaid assistance. If that happened, I would probably be dead within a year because I would not be able to afford needed medical care. But then, I just know that MU Engineer thinks I should just die anyway, so he could make more money (I have no idea how the figures that would work).

Poor people have been hurt more by Obama than by any other president in the history of the United States. Benefits to help them have been cut drastically, while he has put into place a lot of financial help for the upper middle class and above. Bush seemed to define the poor as those who only made $100K or so; those making less just being trash. Obama seems to have raised that to $250K. That obviously is MU Engineers fault, the crook ripping off the old and disabled (See, I can be asinine as well).

[Gold Leader]

@ DaveB, MU_Engineer & whooo?

Uhm excuse me, but you three move your off topic posts to The Vent/Coffee Lounge section please?
http://forums.2cpu.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9

As your posts have nothing to do with my topic and it's very off-topic I do find, as it is messing up the goodness of this topic
Sorry for asking, but your off-topic drama does not belong in my thread.

Back ontopic and no more drama please, it's all I ask.

[Gold Leader]

Yeeeesss!!!! Finally there is progress on my end xDDDDDD

Look what arrived today from guruofhotrod!!!!

2x 8-Core AMD OpteronMP 6140 D1 Boxed


Here they are with the new style AMD Opteron Case Badges too! w00t


They remind me of how the Pentium Pro looked like and I also think they are about the same size too xD

Many many thanks to guruofhotrod for helping me applying these two beauties!!!!

[aryan]

congrats GL ! small teaser for the progress so far here @hq:

[MU_Engineer]

Originally Posted by Gold Leader

Yeeeesss!!!! Finally there is progress on my end xDDDDDD

Look what arrived today from guruofhotrod!!!!
Here they are with the new style AMD Opteron Case Badges too! w00t


They remind me of how the Pentium Pro looked like and I also think they are about the same size too xD

Many many thanks to guruofhotrod for helping me applying these two beauties!!!!

I thought AMD changed the Opteron logo from the second Opteron logo (below) to the current (third) one with the Bulldozer Opterons and not midway through the Magny-Cours run.



My 6128s I originally had in my workstation had case badges with the above logo. They were produced July 19-25 of 2010. However the 6234 currently in my machine was only made 11 weeks after your 6140s and it came with the new-style logo so maybe AMD did make a rolling logo transition. Personally, I like the third generation logo the best so you lucked out.

[guruofhotrod]

I bought some 6140's on ebay from a guy that upgraded some HP servers, They had the 6140's from HP and the guy's employer added some newer model servers that were outfitted with 6220's so, the employer wanted the original units upgraded to the same spec's (6220's) to match the newer models - The 6140's I bought came in 6220 packaging and the case badges were included. Good catch MU_Engineer

P.S. Gold Leader, You are very welcome!! I'm glad to see you making progress toward your G34 project "Valkyrie SMP 2013"

[Gold Leader]

Aww thanks xD
Well I really hope to purchase the Supermicro H8DG6-F this month, then I can post some sweet pics again of the mobo in the Tyr but this time with the CPU's in place! I can't wait to just do this ya know xD
As the Blue lighting goes I will have to recable that to the top of the asem because I found out that these lamps are a bit too high and I am losing two HDD bays rofl, because I placed them on the fllor of the HDD rack hah!

I plan to buy 2x 30CM from Sharkoon this brand has 1 metre cables orsay about 3 feet long, to which I can cable mange much easieer than the 15 CM ones Revoltech gave. No more Revoltech for me as that goes heh.

Also I replied to the mail your mum sent me, I don't think I can help with such things, as it is too complicated for me to seek contact with people I never heard of and such, sorry there

but even that I will beta test Hyper SLI with my GTX 680's and two GTX 295 Red Editions with my Supermicro H8DG6-F I do plan to hus a HD 7990 as main VGA for the normal things and such.AMD/ATi has fixed the micro stuttering issue for good thanks to their new tech called Frame Pacing, which you can enable or disable when using any type of CFX configuration:
http://techreport.com/review/25167/f...radeon-hd-7990

And since a HD 7990 cost like 638 euro's which is about 20 euro's more than the cheapest GTX 780, well to me it would be more than obvious to go for the HD 7990.
As for CUDA it can be emulated through OpenCL with this driver:
http://www.techpowerup.com/119073/nv...-every-pc.html

If you want to use a NVIDIA GPGPU for CUDA or PhysX that is not problem eithe, just make sure you isntall GenL PhysX hack
http://physxinfo.com/news/?s=GenL

So as that goes there isn't much to lose as all that goes Best image Quality with NVIDIA CUDA & physX support all out of one box I plan to test this GenL hack with the EVGA GTX 480 alongside the HD 7990, unless I can get me a HD 6990 for a very good deal, I might go along with that also

This is the same type of idea I had with the AMD/ATI HD 6990 and the EVGA GTX 480 here:

[Gold Leader]

Well great news everyone, Project G34 comes a step closer today after becoming the winning bidder of this auction of an ATI/AMD Radeon HD 6990 PCI-E 4096MB 512Bit GDDR5 aka R900 Antilles!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/AMD-Radeon-HD...EOIBSA:NL:3160




Once the card arrives I will make lots of high quality pics of it, this will be the main VGA of Valkyrie SMP 2013, and the EVGA GTX 480 will be the dedicated CUDA GPGPU & PhysX PPU.
But not to worry I am willing to try and get Hyper SLI working with my GTX 680 SC Sigs also

The awesome thing is, is that I got this original AMD HD 6990 for one third of the price of a Radeon HD 7990 which costs about 645 Euro for the cheapest in my country:
http://tweakers.net/categorie/49/vid...K1MDNXiq2trQUA

Anyways Stay tuned for lots more!

[Gold Leader]

With the AMD Radeon HD 6990 and the two 8-Core AMD Opteorn 6140 D1's here I have updated my parts list

2x 8-Core AMD OpteronMP 6140 D1 Mangy Cours Server CPU's @ 16x 2.6Ghz which I bought from guruofhotrod xD


AMD Radeon HD 6990 PCI-E 4096MB 512Bit GDDR5 Rev.A12 1052 I got off ebay for 202 Euro, a steal of a Raddy deal!


EVGA GeForce GTX 480 PCI-E 1536MB 384Bit GDDR5 Rev.A3 2110


Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1 PCI-E 64MB XRAM


The bolded coloured parts have been obtained

2x 8-Core AMD OpteronMP 6140 D1 Mangy Cours Server CPU's @ 16x 2.6Ghz Many many MANY thanks to guruofhotrod for his great help for helping me aquire two of these beauties for a good deal !!!!!!
Supermicro H8DG6-F
4x 8GB PC3-12800 ECC Reg HP/Micron or Kingston
2x Noctua NH-U9DO A3's
AMD Radeon HD 6990 PCI-E 4096MB 512Bit GDDR5 Rev.A12 1052 [2x 2048MB 256Bit GDDR5 Per RV970XT Cayman GPVPU]
EVGA GeForce GTX 480 PCI-E 1536MB 384Bit GDDR5 Rev.A3 2110 as Dedicated PhysX & CUDA PPU with GenL PhysX Hack
Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1 PCI-E 64MB XRAM
1x Corsair Force3 240GB SATA III SSD
1x Plextor PX-B950SA BR-RW Single Layer, Dual Layer & DR-3D BR-RW Supported
Lian Li Tyr PC-X2000B
Lian Li W-X2000B Side Window Kit
SeaSononic Platrinum-X 1000 Watt 100% Modular PSU
2x 30 CM Green CCFL's from Revoltec
2x 30 CM White CCFL's from Revoltec
2x 10 CM Blue CCFL's from Revoltec

I have renovated and cleaned the AMD Radeon HD 6990 also, you can read more about that here:
http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.ph...652#post801652

The main thread is also here @ EVGA forums:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?h...page=1#2003835

[nhollis]

I have just replaced my KGPE D16 Supermicro H8DGi-F
I have tried two cards in the build and the FPS drops are horrible.
Cinebench and 3D MARK halved with GTX 580 from KGPE and 7990 is 70% slower than on my Ivy bridge machine.
Mem and CPU scores are where they should be. I have tried all settings in BIOS and flashed to latest 3.0a and lost another 20% with the 580.
Can anyone offer some suggestions please or this is going back .

[jragsdale1]

Gold leader, did you see this board on ebay ?